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I come from an extremely dysfunctional family and my childhood was horrific. As an adult, I have spent many years in therapy learning to cope with the abuse. With that said, I was recently put into a position where I had to decide if my mother was to move into my home or into assisted living. Mom has severe arthritis in her hips and lost mobility three years ago. For the past three years my mother had been living with my sister, then one day out of the blue my sister said she'd had enough. And then gave my mother two weeks to move out! So I was forced to make really tough decisions very quickly. My mother is not truthful about how much money she has and insists that she can't afford assisted living. Because I was going to have to build a ramp for her to get into my house and do other things to "prepare" myself I insisted she stay in assisted living until I could get ready. I found and moved her into a place close to my home in less than two weeks. But now my mom calls me for everything and she won't use the help at the assisted living. She has only been there a month and I have found that I can't stand being in the same room with her. The resentment is exploding out of me because she took such horrible care of her three children. Her only son hasn't spoken to her in twenty years or let her meet his children. But not only did she not take care of kids but she didn't take care of herself either. For years (10 plus) she refused medical attention for her hip and now it's too bad to really do anything with (I guess because she still hasn't gone to a doctor). She can use a walker to get to the dinning hall and bathroom but that is it. This is a truly sad situation and I'm the last of the three children left with her.


I have decided that mom can't move in with me. I told her how I was feeling and explained that if she wants a relationship with me we MUST go to counseling. My mother said I was attaching her and kept trying to change the subject. I was insistent and asked her to go to counseling with me many times before in the past. Since this conversation mom hasn't spoken to me since (two days ago). At this point, I don't care if we have a loving relationship or not. I just want to be able to be around her without wanting to run away crying. I have decided that if she doesn't go to counseling with me that I will also cut all ties. This was a very painful decision but this last month has taken an incredible toll on me. Since I've been in charge of my mother's care I have realized that she hasn't changed at all and many wounds are being reopened. I am overcome with guilt and many more emotions. I am her last hope and she may not be able to afford assisted living for the rest of her life. What options are out there for me and my mother?

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Let me start by saying you made the right decision not moving your mother in with you. Guilt-tripping often forces a person to go against their better judgment and do things they know they should not.
If your mother cannot afford AL her choices are not the street or living with you.
She will get placed in custodial care in a nursing home. Or get put into a board and care home. Both will accept Medicaid and she will get it if her income is low enough. If she has assets they will have to be spent down and the proceeds going towards her housing and care.
Your mother is not going to go to counseling with you. She will also not accept any responsibility for what your home life was like when you were a kid. I'd be willing to bet that your mother has talked herself into such denial that she sees herself as a victim of abuse rather than as the abuser. Your childhood, the abuse, and the neglect are not her fault because she's a victim too.
Sound familiar? I come from a situation very similar to yours. The only way you're going to be able to have any relationship with her is if you find a way to accept her as she is. Protect yourself from her abusive guilting and toxic denial. Create strong boundaries. Please go back to therapy. Guilt and negative emotions are hurting you. Go back to counseling for yourself not your mother.
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Sarah826 Jun 2022
You have the women pegged! I was the "wild child", aka"scapegoat". I was the reason why her life was so hard! It's insane to think that I thought that was true. And that, I thought I was done with therapy. This past month has truly convinced me that I've only scratched the surface! But I really did think a counselor would have been helpful for us but the consensus says otherwise. It's really sad that that window has closed.
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I'm so sorry that you are feeling such debilitating guilt and sorrow over this relationship. Because you are a compassionate person, you feel compelled to help her. And you can certainly do this as long as you have correct expectations and strong boundaries. Don't wait for your mom to go to counseling with you, as this will probably never happen. Please go now for your own self. You seem to have an unhealthy, co-dependent relationship with her. This is clouding your judgment and causing emotional confusion.

You are not responsible for your mother's happiness. You keep wanting her to be someone she isn't and probably never will be. A good therapist can help you navigate this. We don't get to choose our family but we choose how we interact with them. Spend effort looking for your "chosen" new family of friends, which will enrich your life and future. I wish you clarity and peace in your heart!
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Sarah826 Jun 2022
Thank you. I will definitely make an appointment with my old therapist. It's been such a circus with getting mom moved and settled that the thought of seeking help for me never crossed my mind. Really I thought I was good until just now while I'm literally reading everyone's replies.
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If you "help" (read enable, prop, or any other term) mom then she has no reason to rely on the help that she is paying for in AL.
STOP jumping when she says jump.
"Give" her a day a week where you will help her with the things that AL will not do. Take her to the store or doctor visits or whatever. If you can manage 1 day that would be great. BUT if you mentally can't then that is reason enough to say that you can't do it. There is no reason for you to YOUR health in jeopardy caring for another.
YOU are NOT her last hope...YOU are YOUR last hope. Take care of yourself.
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Sarah826 Jun 2022
You're right! I know mom's happiness isn't my burden but emotionally it is heartwrenching! It will take some time for me to truly believe that:/
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Cut toxic people out of your life. Just say no to Mom and maintain as little contact as possible. Don't answer her calls, nor do anything for her that the AL provides. You've done everything right so far, so don't cave in to pressure.
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I think that your PAST history should be set aside in this question.
For whatever reason you cannot/do not want your mother in your home.
Accept that as your truth, and own it. Let that be the solid foundation going forward.
Do know that once you take your mother into your home all bets are off. Once she gets mail in your home she is under the law a tenant and cannot be easily removed from your home. It is at that point HER HOME no matter she pays rent or not.
Make your decision and tell Mom: "Hi Mom. I will hope to support you in some ways, but one of them is not your moving into my home. That isn't up for argument or discussion".
Start limiting conversations with Mom. One of two a day is enough. After that there is 911.
In truth, and from your note to us, you are still stuck the abused child syndrome and I quite honestly think that the only way out of that is professional help. On Forum when the question is legal and the wrong move would be awful we suggest a lawyer. When the question is medical we suggest a doctor. When financial, a CPA. There is no substitute when you need solid professional insight, for a professional. This person will help you work through your feelings of the past and more importantly, how to set boundaries that are solid, and make a good future.
I wish you good luck. Remember, the question here isn't how much money Mom has to her care. If she is a ward of the state or if she has no money care can be found through medicaid. That is up to Mom and Social Workers, or social workers.
In all the you do not say who the POA. So please, at this point, just see that it is NEVER YOU.
I wish you the very best. Get good help for yourself. A Forum is good for sympathy, but you need solid real help here.
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You stand your ground!!!

Once mom moves in with you, getting her out again will be nigh unto impossible.

NO GUILT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are not doing anything WRONG!

My mom was a much less than 'par' mother, to me. She didn't/doesn't like me, although she will now (at age 92) often say "Now, you KNOW I love you?" No, I do not, and it will be a long time before I feel that she does, not in this life anyway. I think she's afraid I will speak ill of her at her funeral. I don't intend to say ANYTHING at her funeral.

Do what you have to do to come to terms with dealing with her. Counseling at this point is probably not going to be helpful. My mother went to therapy with a couple of the sibs and it was an enormous waste of time.

I have spent FAR too many hours crying over the treatment my mom hands me--driving home and bawling the whole way. Not. worth. it.

I love my mother for what she was able to be/do for me. I have been a MUCH better mom that my mom was. So, it wasn't a total loss--she served as a cautionary tale.

I have accpeted that we will not have a decent, healthy relationship. It is what it is, but I refuse to bring her in to my home to toxify my life and the life of my DH.

Do not move her in, Do not let the innapropriate emotion of guilt eat at you.

Of course you will find her the nicest place SHE can afford. You will visit. When you have hit the limit with her (actually about 5 minutes before!) you leave.

Will she be mad? Oh, without question, but can you possibly make her see that she has already ruined any chance at a decent relationship with any of you and that is the reason she cannot live with you. Period.

I wish for you the strength to stand up to mom and be loving, yet distant. It's a challenge so many of us face.
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eat-pray-love Jun 2022
GREAT response! This helped me too! I will never have my Mom living with me because it would destroy me for a multitude of reasons. We can support from the sidelines: I call daily & generally go up once every week. If work gets too busy 3 x's a month... Supporting with boundaries. I have learned so much of this from responses, like yours!
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Sarah, pat yourself on the back that you aren't living with your abusive biological parent (it's hard for me to refer to such a person as being a "mother"). Some of the most heartbreaking posts we read on this forum are from adult children of abusers who for one reason or another now find themselves trapped living with their abuser AGAIN.
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Sarah826 Jun 2022
Sadly, society holds children (all children) responsible for their elderly parents. Especially, the daughters.
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Were you in contact with your mother when she lived with your sister? In all the years of therapy, did you not learn that you need to keep your distance?

As far as your mother going to therapy with you, it's not going to happen. Besides, do you want the hassle of hauling her and her walker to and from therapy appointments?

Are you her POA? HCPOA? It sounds like she is mentally competent. Is she? But then if that's true, then how did you make the decision to place her in AL?

You don't have to answer the phone every time she calls you.
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There are many reasons why an adult child does not want to, or cannot, care for an aged parent in their home. You don't need a 'valid excuse' either, in my personal opinion, because nowhere is it written that we 'must' provide such hands on care for our parents. Does that mean we leave them to rot? Of course not. But it also does not mean that we sacrifice ourselves or our lives to make sure they are cared for in our homes, at our expense, both emotionally & physically, either.

In order for in home, hands-on care to work, it has to work for EVERYONE involved; for your mother, for you, for your husband and children, for everyone. And in this case, it would not work for you, so therefore, it does not work. Period. Other arrangements have to made, in this situation, so make sure to do just that.
I myself made the decision decades ago that I would not be doing ANY hands on care for my parents when they got old, as their only child. I grew up with my grandmother living in our house & as a result, my childhood was ruined. My mother and she went at it like animals all the time, and I had a chronic stomach ache as a result. I vowed I'd NEVER put myself or my family thru such a gruesome experience, and so I did not. I let my parents know right from the get-go that I'd be happy to help them get set up in senior living, but that they would not be living with me inside my home, or me with them inside their home. End of story.

So when dad couldn't drive anymore, I moved them to my state to be close to me, found them a nice senior independent living apartment 4 miles away, and set about to help them with everything they needed help with. My mother did everything in her power to drive me crazy, as always, b/c she and I were always oil & water: not a good mix. To know that is to save your sanity! Know it and deal with it rather than fantasize that it will somehow change with 'therapy' or 'counseling' or with magical thinking or some such thing. It won't. If a dysfunctional relationship has been going on your whole life, guess what? Nothing is gonna change it. Certainly not in old age, when behaviors worsen as dementia and illness set in!!! Ain't no pill or therapy session on earth gonna change your mother into a loving/nurturing soul after all this time! #Truth

So when dad broke his hip, I had to move them both into Assisted Living, and I did. Then dad died and I moved mom into a smaller unit at the same AL. I managed her entire life FOR her but on MY terms. This went on for 10.5 years. I had to move her into Memory Care AL in 2019, where she lived until she died this past February. Almost until the day she died, she asked to come live with me, but I told her that would be impossible. She had way too many serious illnesses for me to even CONSIDER taking care of her, and she was best off in managed care. I managed to save MY sanity, and likely lengthen HER life, by that decision, not to mention I saved OUR relationship in the process. Had I moved her into my house, we'd have been at one another's throats 24/7, I guarantee it. In MC, I could go visit her on my terms, bring her gifts and photos of her great grandchild, and leave when I was ready to. It worked out for both of us, the way I see it. She was beautifully cared for there by an attentive team of loving caregivers, too. The train of people thru her room when she was dying was a testament to how much they cared about her.

So set your mom up in AL, and if/when the $$$ runs out to private pay, apply for Medicaid and get her placed in Skilled Nursing. That was my plan with mom, who lived till she was 95 and was this-close to running out of $$$ herself.

Make your decisions and then stand by them. Don't do things out of a misguided sense of guilt, either. Stand your ground and don't look back. You owe YOURSELF a good life after a bad childhood. Remember that.
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Riverdale Jun 2022
I am sorry you also had to endure this. My paternal grandmother was a saving grace to me. All maternal feelings I have I believe originated from my early years spent with her. I also believe my early desire to cook and my ever present desire to clean were due to her. She would often come to CA where I grew up from NY to help when my mother stayed in bed.

She died at 98 sadly in a NH that wasn't very good. I would cry each time I left after visiting her. I hope I am the grandmother I am due to her.
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I cannot stand my mother, she was and is very toxic...to everyone.

My brother & I have placed her in assisted living, she is safe and cared for, I manage her money to make certain that she will not outlive her assets.

Otherwise, she does not exist to me, my brother visits her a couple of times a month to make sure everything is ok, and it is.

We both do our part, me without even talking to her.
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